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So let's be clear on this one: whitewashing someone's terrorist past doesn't -just- happen to feminists.<br /><br />And the bigger point is: so many young women are so blissfully unaware of any of this, they've been taught for so long that "feminism is about equality," well, if we're going to get through to some of them we're going to have to work on it.<br /><br />I firmly believe that without more feminine voices saying "these are our sons, our brothers, in many cases some of our best friends, we have to stop this," it won't stop, because too many other social factors mitigate against men doing it all by themselves. We have to get through to women.<br /><br />I often think of my old friend Trudy Schuett, who is probably 15-20 years older than either of us and is now pretty close to retired from the men's rights movement, though she's been active in it from the 1970s (when it was even less popular than now). 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